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... wrote the man from the 3rd biggest sokker community.
Yes, Türkiye became this week number 3 on users ranking.
https://sokker.org/world
Yes, Türkiye became this week number 3 on users ranking.
https://sokker.org/world
Yes, there are few counties, but if we are talking about majority - kryminator is absolutely right.
I asked a question 2 days ago, but still don't know the answer.
Apparently some questions get answered, some don't.
How is the situation looking like for promotion from 3rd league to 2nd?
Only half of all the champions in 3rd will be promoted? (Not considering bots in 1st or 2nd league)
How will they be decided? Those who will promote to 2nd league and those who don't
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Apparently some questions get answered, some don't.
How is the situation looking like for promotion from 3rd league to 2nd?
Only half of all the champions in 3rd will be promoted? (Not considering bots in 1st or 2nd league)
How will they be decided? Those who will promote to 2nd league and those who don't
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This is the post I was talking about
Just to clarify the Belgian (and maybe other countries) situation a little.
Current situation
First league has 8 teams
4 2nd leagues with 8 teams (n=32)
16 3rd leagues with 8 teams (n=128)
16 4th leagues with 8 teams (n=128)
Total = 328 teams
Situation Next season
First league with 12 teams
3 2nd leagues with 12 teams (n=36)
9 3rd leagues with 12 teams (n=108)
27 4th leagues with 12 teams (n=324)
Total = 480 teams
...
Just to clarify the Belgian (and maybe other countries) situation a little.
Current situation
First league has 8 teams
4 2nd leagues with 8 teams (n=32)
16 3rd leagues with 8 teams (n=128)
16 4th leagues with 8 teams (n=128)
Total = 328 teams
Situation Next season
First league with 12 teams
3 2nd leagues with 12 teams (n=36)
9 3rd leagues with 12 teams (n=108)
27 4th leagues with 12 teams (n=324)
Total = 480 teams
...
I can speak for several nations where i was NT. Bulgaria i can tell that there is a super-strong community around the NT and a lot of forum activity around it... dispute fights majority of users train nt players we do what we can to keep the team strong...
Canada even not many users there are a lot of users from other countries that contribute. Scotland same thing but next level small community but again with a lot foreign users that contribute around the NT and super nice forum to participate..
Tzech Republic - i remember skype channels in the pass with superb activity around nt games in the last few seasons thats not the case and im sure one of the reasons is that devs always put nt teams as low priority
My personal opinion is that dev can do a very profitable strategy around NT teams and as soon as they realize that cannot be a hundred champions but there are possibly hundreds of users to train nt players maybe then the game will start contributing profit ...
not to mention how many useres build nt databases put efforst for scouting tools etc .
Im sure that in Poland also there is interest around nt if you go and check elections of all countries probably most of them are from poland
Canada even not many users there are a lot of users from other countries that contribute. Scotland same thing but next level small community but again with a lot foreign users that contribute around the NT and super nice forum to participate..
Tzech Republic - i remember skype channels in the pass with superb activity around nt games in the last few seasons thats not the case and im sure one of the reasons is that devs always put nt teams as low priority
My personal opinion is that dev can do a very profitable strategy around NT teams and as soon as they realize that cannot be a hundred champions but there are possibly hundreds of users to train nt players maybe then the game will start contributing profit ...
not to mention how many useres build nt databases put efforst for scouting tools etc .
Im sure that in Poland also there is interest around nt if you go and check elections of all countries probably most of them are from poland
current total is 296
I don't know how it will be but maybe
1
3
9
9
which would give 264?
I don't know how it will be but maybe
1
3
9
9
which would give 264?
I agree with Sviktorov
And not only this.In RL the NT matches is a selebration,we can see all those stars together
in diffrent Nations.
There is no stronger team than a National team here in sokker.
The strongest 11 players from every country play against other similar countrys.
Why we have to play with a Random ME?
An old dev he don't want to work,think that as a solution for some surprise results!
And the matches who would be the surprise,they end with the unfair win of the favorite,this is the ME we play.
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NT's are the football at the best!!
If the devs know about football,-with a hard work meaby- they can give us a beatufull game to play.
We dont need new pages no need any random result.
Just work on the strategic part of the game,thats why we r here lot of us!
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And not only this.In RL the NT matches is a selebration,we can see all those stars together
in diffrent Nations.
There is no stronger team than a National team here in sokker.
The strongest 11 players from every country play against other similar countrys.
Why we have to play with a Random ME?
An old dev he don't want to work,think that as a solution for some surprise results!
And the matches who would be the surprise,they end with the unfair win of the favorite,this is the ME we play.
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NT's are the football at the best!!
If the devs know about football,-with a hard work meaby- they can give us a beatufull game to play.
We dont need new pages no need any random result.
Just work on the strategic part of the game,thats why we r here lot of us!
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I am not saying that I don't want NTs at all. I am just saying that in current state they just don't work. Devs should first consider how to make NT more appealing for ALL users. Granted, I am mostly talking from Polish user point of view and in Poland there is even no point in starting work as Poland NT coach because no one is interested and even if he or she would win the main trophy no one would notice, so what is the point? I know that there is some international community around NT but in Poland, around Polish NT teams, there is none.
And the "randomness" of ME is essential for simulating matches. It might be adjusted a little, cut from some stupidity it contains, but still should be random.
And the "randomness" of ME is essential for simulating matches. It might be adjusted a little, cut from some stupidity it contains, but still should be random.
Nice, that you ask again, because I think I made mistake last time (however the mistake has no affect on the result, which I presented - the result of relegation between division 1 and 2)
So, the procedure, especially for 3rd to 2nd: division
A) At the moment before the end of the relegation games there will be 24 teams in leagues 1 and 2
(24 = 8 from past season league 1 and 16 from past season league 2 which attended places 1-4.)
Rremember:
- old system: 1st Division 8 teams, 2nd 8*4 = 32, 1st+2nd = 40 teams
- new system: 1st Division 12 teams, 2nd 12*3 = 36, 1st+2nd = 48 teams
So, there will be 24 places left for Division 2, after the playoffs.
B) After the end of the playoffs the situation becomes critical, because there will be
- 4 directly relegated teams from div. 2 to div 3,
- there will be 4 teams which theoretically should promote directly to division 2
- and there are 12 playoff winners of playoff-matches between league 2 and 3.
Who will get one of the remaining 24 places on division 2?
- First, the 4 teams from division 2 which should directly move to division 3. They stay on division 2.
(So at this moment, there are 20 places left.)
- Then, all teams from div 2 which won or lost playoff-match against div 3 will stay on div 2.
(So these are 12 more places and there are 8 places left.)
At this point, all teams from div 2 (and div 1) reamain over division 3. None of them will be relegated to division 3.
- The remaining 8 places are for:
"teams that have advanced to a given level (direct promotions from lower leagues, and play-off winners from lower leagues)"
It's in bold, because I do not know the criteria, if it will be the direct promoted teams, the winners of playofs or the best ranked teams of division 3.
I guess the remaining 8 places for division 3 will be for:
- The 4 teams which should directly promote to division 2
- And for the best ranked (among all groups of division 2) teams of div 2, which won a playoff-match.
If there are less than 4 playoff-winners from division 3, then the best ranked teams of all groups of division 3.
So, the procedure, especially for 3rd to 2nd: division
A) At the moment before the end of the relegation games there will be 24 teams in leagues 1 and 2
(24 = 8 from past season league 1 and 16 from past season league 2 which attended places 1-4.)
Rremember:
- old system: 1st Division 8 teams, 2nd 8*4 = 32, 1st+2nd = 40 teams
- new system: 1st Division 12 teams, 2nd 12*3 = 36, 1st+2nd = 48 teams
So, there will be 24 places left for Division 2, after the playoffs.
B) After the end of the playoffs the situation becomes critical, because there will be
- 4 directly relegated teams from div. 2 to div 3,
- there will be 4 teams which theoretically should promote directly to division 2
- and there are 12 playoff winners of playoff-matches between league 2 and 3.
Who will get one of the remaining 24 places on division 2?
- First, the 4 teams from division 2 which should directly move to division 3. They stay on division 2.
(So at this moment, there are 20 places left.)
- Then, all teams from div 2 which won or lost playoff-match against div 3 will stay on div 2.
(So these are 12 more places and there are 8 places left.)
At this point, all teams from div 2 (and div 1) reamain over division 3. None of them will be relegated to division 3.
- The remaining 8 places are for:
"teams that have advanced to a given level (direct promotions from lower leagues, and play-off winners from lower leagues)"
It's in bold, because I do not know the criteria, if it will be the direct promoted teams, the winners of playofs or the best ranked teams of division 3.
I guess the remaining 8 places for division 3 will be for:
- The 4 teams which should directly promote to division 2
- And for the best ranked (among all groups of division 2) teams of div 2, which won a playoff-match.
If there are less than 4 playoff-winners from division 3, then the best ranked teams of all groups of division 3.
I know that there is some international community around NT but in Poland, around Polish NT teams, there is none.
I would say that there's no such thing as Polish forum community, there are mostly angry people shouting at each other, or trolling, it's very weird and toxic.
Smaller forums are a different matter of course, but these are 'bubbles'...
I would say that there's no such thing as Polish forum community, there are mostly angry people shouting at each other, or trolling, it's very weird and toxic.
Smaller forums are a different matter of course, but these are 'bubbles'...
This could be a little off-topic, but shouldn't Sokker have a Discord? every online game i know has one, even small games, forum is good to keep announcements and discussions, or guides an such, but for day to day comments and simpler doubts than can be answered by the community, discord seems better.