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Eh, that is just my opinion just like you have yours. Yes, maybe they can and will do so, I just dont believe they are capable of it right now considering the struggle and time consumed with way easier things so simpler solutions could be better.
Also as the user count is declining - fixing league system for small countries should have been a bigger priority that whatever they are doing now. Now that probably wont ever happen because they wont do second redistribution of leagues any time soon. It is not fun to play in a country, when you have to compete against 7 way worse teams just so you could get some competitive CC games per season. It will only get worse with playing against 11 even worse ones...
Also as the user count is declining - fixing league system for small countries should have been a bigger priority that whatever they are doing now. Now that probably wont ever happen because they wont do second redistribution of leagues any time soon. It is not fun to play in a country, when you have to compete against 7 way worse teams just so you could get some competitive CC games per season. It will only get worse with playing against 11 even worse ones...
Also as the user count is declining - fixing league system for small countries should have been a bigger priority
nope
that's just Your perspective again
if You have a company and different divisions of clients - do you concentrate first on a division with 7-15 clients, or the divisions with 500/1000/1500 clients?
nope
that's just Your perspective again
if You have a company and different divisions of clients - do you concentrate first on a division with 7-15 clients, or the divisions with 500/1000/1500 clients?
It changed your perception.
you talk a lot but there's not much content in what you're saying
you talk a lot but there's not much content in what you're saying
Good luck in playing in polish only community in a few years then if all the developers care are "whats better for Poland league". And don't be suprised that others don't agree with your view.
It's not what's better for Poland, it's "what's better for countries that are active" and what's better for the game
It's only logical to start improvements for ALL big countries AND small countries, than to start with only small countries that have barely any users at all
you can disagree but it's not a game made for xineon, it's a game made for all people
It's only logical to start improvements for ALL big countries AND small countries, than to start with only small countries that have barely any users at all
you can disagree but it's not a game made for xineon, it's a game made for all people
If they dont want 3x18/5x17 players - affect them and make training them in such a way harder/near impossible by making training more exponential in gains at higher levels to encourage sideskill training instead, not reduce level of players across the board. Simple as that.,
Oh yes that's it +1 In the contrary, increase the speed of training for lower skills.
That will make the overall players level more homogeneous, the market itself will reduce its inflation, new clubs will be able to progress faster and not waiting years.... a Win, win, win. Except for the old "historical" clubs.
Oh yes that's it +1 In the contrary, increase the speed of training for lower skills.
That will make the overall players level more homogeneous, the market itself will reduce its inflation, new clubs will be able to progress faster and not waiting years.... a Win, win, win. Except for the old "historical" clubs.
When you already play against inactive teams or bots during a season and you expand the number of clubs in league, Well... its' not the same 'improvement" for big OR small countries.
Also thus will not make the game "faster" (devs reform goal), not in term of speed of progression. New user teams already need to face a price inflation (since years in sokker) and reducing season without touching the training progression faster will never help new users to be more competitive... "faster".
Also thus will not make the game "faster" (devs reform goal), not in term of speed of progression. New user teams already need to face a price inflation (since years in sokker) and reducing season without touching the training progression faster will never help new users to be more competitive... "faster".
When you already play against inactive teams or bots during a season and you expand the number of clubs in league, Well... its' not the same 'improvement" for big OR small countries.
of course
but if you have a country with 5 or 10 users it's as if there was no country at all
you can't make decisions based on 0.5% of game's users and make them the priority over 99.5% of users
and as soon as the game develops and improves, it will start getting promoted and the smaller countries might/should increase in user numbers
New user teams already need to face a price inflation (since years in sokker)
actually I think the prices dropped since the real inflation, there were times when good players were sold for 20-30m euros, now it's much lower. On the other hand, higher player prices are actually good for new teams, because they can get more resources for 'beginner mode' - improving stadium, better coaches, youth school etc. - these are all FIXED prices, so the more the players go for, the less (in reality) you have to pay for coaches, stadium (...).
doesn't change the fact that the economy needs a makeover as well
of course
but if you have a country with 5 or 10 users it's as if there was no country at all
you can't make decisions based on 0.5% of game's users and make them the priority over 99.5% of users
and as soon as the game develops and improves, it will start getting promoted and the smaller countries might/should increase in user numbers
New user teams already need to face a price inflation (since years in sokker)
actually I think the prices dropped since the real inflation, there were times when good players were sold for 20-30m euros, now it's much lower. On the other hand, higher player prices are actually good for new teams, because they can get more resources for 'beginner mode' - improving stadium, better coaches, youth school etc. - these are all FIXED prices, so the more the players go for, the less (in reality) you have to pay for coaches, stadium (...).
doesn't change the fact that the economy needs a makeover as well
Why there is always leak of info in Polish forum. When I was a staff member and I posted a poll just to see the opinion of users for short season I was torn apart. Some staff members even overdue their rights with abuses in internal staff forum
Now the changes always go in Polish forum. Why is that ?
Now the changes always go in Polish forum. Why is that ?
if you have a country with 5 or 10 users it's as if there was no country at all
it's "slightly" disdainful. Especially in relation to what is happening in the world.... But back to the game : It's not about of being nice to 0.5% of players, but not degrading the game experience for 100%.
and as soon as the game develops and improves, it will start getting promoted and the smaller countries might/should increase in user numbers
And how it could happen when a 'new improvement' already decrease user experience in small countries? Not a very logical move. In any case it will not happen after this reform, for sure.
there were times when good players were sold for 20-30m euros, now it's much lower.
Oh really ? .... No its not !
they can get more resources for 'beginner mode'
Beginners first need to spend money in those fixed 'prices'. In the other hand, old users benefit again for years from this "beginner mode" since it's been a long time they spent the maximum in those 'beginners' things. What a nice deal ^^ I prefer to be a old, even inactive in fact. :-)
doesn't change the fact that the economy needs a makeover as well
It's good to hear it :-)
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it's "slightly" disdainful. Especially in relation to what is happening in the world.... But back to the game : It's not about of being nice to 0.5% of players, but not degrading the game experience for 100%.
and as soon as the game develops and improves, it will start getting promoted and the smaller countries might/should increase in user numbers
And how it could happen when a 'new improvement' already decrease user experience in small countries? Not a very logical move. In any case it will not happen after this reform, for sure.
there were times when good players were sold for 20-30m euros, now it's much lower.
Oh really ? .... No its not !
they can get more resources for 'beginner mode'
Beginners first need to spend money in those fixed 'prices'. In the other hand, old users benefit again for years from this "beginner mode" since it's been a long time they spent the maximum in those 'beginners' things. What a nice deal ^^ I prefer to be a old, even inactive in fact. :-)
doesn't change the fact that the economy needs a makeover as well
It's good to hear it :-)
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In 2008/2009 for example, prices were way higher.
So your 'no' is not correct.
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So your 'no' is not correct.
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- small countries will grow with not a more games per week but with better ME. Less random less injuries and cards (related to random)
better training to develop full team (that is only positive change we wait and was postponed in my opinion that was first thing they should implement)
new layout very annoying not user friendly even for users that know the game yes is up to technologies but was done with not paying attention to details
and how arcades will work one of main reasons most users pay for plus is to play arcade tournaments that was something that would bring money if arcade tournaments were introduced instead more games per week. this way people that want more games would have their fun and that will not put rest in trouble and force them quit.
and i do not even want to start of attitude of devs toward the Nt thats another reason lots of user still stay in the game
and yes economy i agree there is need of change im not expert there but at least people that try hard in all official tournaments should be encouraged with better bonuses for championship and cup. fan mood should not be affected from one singel game s much but should be linked toward season goals
better training to develop full team (that is only positive change we wait and was postponed in my opinion that was first thing they should implement)
new layout very annoying not user friendly even for users that know the game yes is up to technologies but was done with not paying attention to details
and how arcades will work one of main reasons most users pay for plus is to play arcade tournaments that was something that would bring money if arcade tournaments were introduced instead more games per week. this way people that want more games would have their fun and that will not put rest in trouble and force them quit.
and i do not even want to start of attitude of devs toward the Nt thats another reason lots of user still stay in the game
and yes economy i agree there is need of change im not expert there but at least people that try hard in all official tournaments should be encouraged with better bonuses for championship and cup. fan mood should not be affected from one singel game s much but should be linked toward season goals
I am not sure the random things is clearly the main problem for small countries ^^
A game is just boring when you have to play against very low level or against too high level. No matters random red card , injuries, or ME randoms, it's already boring because of a lack of competitors ...
For small countries i dont see any other alternative solutions than merging countries leagues. Or introducing INT leagues for all. But devs decide to remove the idea of international leagues for the moment...
The next season reform is not necessarily bad, but it will accentuate the problems raised for years and not only for small countries.
A game is just boring when you have to play against very low level or against too high level. No matters random red card , injuries, or ME randoms, it's already boring because of a lack of competitors ...
For small countries i dont see any other alternative solutions than merging countries leagues. Or introducing INT leagues for all. But devs decide to remove the idea of international leagues for the moment...
The next season reform is not necessarily bad, but it will accentuate the problems raised for years and not only for small countries.
matches schedule was going to be changed iirc
I am aware of new order of matches.. in general league play is the only known feature.
What about 1st round of cup?
If we have promotion/relegation on Sunday, friendly on Wed, training update on Thu, ageing on Fri.. will the cup start on that Fri or the next one?
How many weeks the Cup lasts in Polska? 12? 13?
When will CC matches take place/start?
what about NT? I dont think anything change much; they will play on Saturdays iirc, probably both seniors and u21
WC elimination might be slightly changed to have group of equal number of teams (6?) with some kind of pre-eliminary round preceding it
It would be nice if we can have that info as soon as possible to prepare for upcoming WC.
Obviously U27 EC won't be held anymore due to less free weeks, that's a bad one..
And we know nothing about international competitions which were announced..
but dont take it as granted, I am just saying whatever I know or concluded from scraps of info I found
Sure, we are all just assuming..
I am aware of new order of matches.. in general league play is the only known feature.
What about 1st round of cup?
If we have promotion/relegation on Sunday, friendly on Wed, training update on Thu, ageing on Fri.. will the cup start on that Fri or the next one?
How many weeks the Cup lasts in Polska? 12? 13?
When will CC matches take place/start?
what about NT? I dont think anything change much; they will play on Saturdays iirc, probably both seniors and u21
WC elimination might be slightly changed to have group of equal number of teams (6?) with some kind of pre-eliminary round preceding it
It would be nice if we can have that info as soon as possible to prepare for upcoming WC.
Obviously U27 EC won't be held anymore due to less free weeks, that's a bad one..
And we know nothing about international competitions which were announced..
but dont take it as granted, I am just saying whatever I know or concluded from scraps of info I found
Sure, we are all just assuming..
In 2008/2009 for example, prices were way higher.
So your 'no' is not correct.
Say the man of 100M€ transfer revenue...
Well... its just begin since 2008, and it's never really stop, to be precise. The only way to check this is too browse a database that doesn't exist to compare prices/age/skills. But i see few 18y olds selling at 20M€+ last years, for sure it's not a deflation :-p
So your 'no' is not correct.
Say the man of 100M€ transfer revenue...
Well... its just begin since 2008, and it's never really stop, to be precise. The only way to check this is too browse a database that doesn't exist to compare prices/age/skills. But i see few 18y olds selling at 20M€+ last years, for sure it's not a deflation :-p