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Subject: »[info]Dev Diary #82: Automatic release of NT-players from

2022-07-22 21:28:36
No one promised that the efficiencies from the "test week" will stay :)

And it's not that much, only 5% points in advanced training, trust me it could be much worse ;)
2022-07-22 21:30:25
Not agree, sorry !
2022-07-22 21:38:02
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2022-07-22 22:12:28
jajajajaa GREAT changes... sarcasm obviously
2022-07-23 01:31:34
sooo ... where's the update?
2022-07-23 05:27:41
No update...
2022-07-23 06:06:25
Is it still 22/07 in poland?
2022-07-23 06:07:02
No
2022-07-23 07:03:51
there are still 364 days left until 7/22/2023
2022-07-23 11:51:10
8-). Just be patient, great changes are coming..lol
2022-07-23 13:40:47
27 days injury.. great
2022-07-23 16:31:40
so how about some information from the devs wtf is goin on?
2022-07-23 16:59:06
@raul you cannot just disappear like this you guys posted a news you need to tell as what's going on . Should we adjust positions of players tomorrow according to new training?
2022-07-23 17:18:41
Not only tomorrow, how about yesteryear?
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2022-07-23 17:21:03
We can't return yesterday I wish we could but we can eliminate the damage we just need a message...
2022-07-23 17:22:37
@Borkos,

you gave examples of teams who are from countries who were once big and made all their money from that time, not teams who have had to try and make it in a small country...that's a very big difference

Yes my transfer is negative, but it's very easy to make the transfers page look good. MANY teams continually list players for high numbers, that go default, but the listing costs of these players are never taken off the transfers total. I've seen a lot of higher positive balance teams who end up spending more on listing fees than the "profit" that is shown.
The lost revenue from transfer fees, and for fees in U23's, these are never taken off either.

There are fewteams that truly have hundreds of millions in profit, and most of those that do have been around for many seasons.

You must also remember that peak transfer time is between 1-5am in Australia compared to Europe.

But if you actually read what has been brought up, noone has complained about the issues with the transfer market, or not getting enough money in from there, they are complaining that everything in this game is based on supporter numbers which can only be maintained if they are from a large country.
This goes from sponsorship to gate income. This is the base amount of money you get regardless of what is going on in life, and the higher it is, the more you can afford to spend on the transfer market.

And constantly Polish people come and say, "but the money doesn't come from sponsorship" because it is a good excuse to keep peoples focus away from the natural benefit all Poland users have gained, and if you truly believe it doesn't help, why are you and Mikoos so dead against these features being fixed for smaller countries?



@Mikoos
Honestly mate, you need to look at what you say before you say it, because your points to "prove me wrong" are not distinguishing factors between our countries and often prove my point more than yours.

"So how do they make money? By training. That's how you make money in sokker. Of course after the league reform it is much easier to be in plus every week with the current ticket money, but it's the same in every country. But it's only a "plus" in weekly balance, main cost of being in top league is players losing a lot of their value simply by getting older." - the examples borkos gave added 200k AU$ per week to the teams income. Sponsorship for that team is about 400k AU$ per week --> which number is greater?

Thanks, I've been playing sokker since it first came out, have been number 1 in Australia and have regularly beaten much harder opposition with both my team and the NT, and that is despite all the issues the game has towards smaller nations. Players in main leagues of small nations al lose a lot of their value by simply getting older. Do you really think we are all down here just playing a full team of 22yos? How are those gate takings for the teams in the top divisions? Trust me, a lot better than we see. With fans madly in love, many teams I play gate takings of 200k euro.

"made by being in 4th or 5th division league, where the average level is similar to your top league"
This says it all, the best a small nation can get to is the equivalent of Poland 4th/5th division in strength due to all the financial factors that continue to hold small nations down. This has been going on for over a decade, has been proven over and over and over again.


Have posted one thread regarding the research in the post below


"he plays the same squad in all three matches in a week. "
Actually looking back through his matches this is incorrect, but you picked his latest week where he obviously has been busy. If you look further back, it looks like he has been training pace for quite a while. But again, stopped as soon as you "found data" that suited your point of view.
And why would he auto-demote? Because who in the top 9 is he going to beat to make them auto demote? And as you say, training is how you make money, but if he is using very old players as you say, then he won't be training them properly
That particular user has actually trained many Australian NT players, so whilst they may not be the perfect trainer, I can say his training has been "good enough" to be keeping up with the average sokker user.

" He is the problem of his team, not the league, not the sponsorship money, not the tickets money, not the number of fans he has. He could do great if he learns :)" Once again wrong. :)
How would you like to see your sponsorship cut by 60% overnight back to the level you started playing?
Your current team only started in 2021 and benefited from being promoted to Div 5 after 1 month - which pushed your sponsorship right up above anything any team other than the top division of smaller countries can earn, and that's got nothing to do with good management, that is you taking over the top team towards the end of the season, and literally being able to just make a basic tactic.
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