Subject: »[info]Dev Diary #82: Automatic release of NT-players from

So, they didn't slow down the training curve much, but they slowed down the age curve?
Same difference, and they didn't lie about slowing down THE TRAINING XD

I can confirm that training of low to mid skills at young age hasn't been slowed down.
My 22yo player gained very good (9) DEF after 3 training weeks.

the slow down 2 elements, and probably one release overlaps the other and hence the shitty training

there is also a slowdown in young players, but not too much
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I can also add that I trained two 28yo players to superdivine (18) DEF in past few weeks, by giving them few advanced def trainings.
Obviously, both of them had a lot of general/formation trainings from previous period.

So, it's achievable, but will it be in the future because of training/age being slowed down for both general and formation trainings.

I ve been in sokker for a long time and youth from the academy have always pop up on pace on the first week. Its not the case anymore. Whats the point of friendlies if they don t count anymore? Ok, friendlies doesn t affect the training for older players but not to have pops on 16,17 years old played in friendlies is ridiculous.

Two weeks ago i got a junior in YS with skill 5 and on thursday he popped on 8. Last thursday he dropped on 7 and today he is back on 5. What a roller coaster xD

My divine def poped after about 16 workouts (14 + 20gt),
9 of which he has got as 27y in the old training

From my point of view, Raul never said that they have changed how age impacts skill progress, although his quote also doesn't ensure us that they did not.

His age doing a lot was just simply stating a fact that age had and still has huge impact on skill progression slow down. At least, to my understanding.

Also, You could format that whole quote so my statements are clearly distinguishable from Raul ones.
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I was not quoting Raul, but only your post.

Raul assured us that with the shortened season there will be an acceleration of training, and he introduced a delay of 2 elements.

It is very weak that such information is classified and not reported in Dev Diary.

So, we can conclude that general training (GT) at the age 25 was much more worth than at the age of 27.
If we can correlate speed of GT/FT to the speed of advanced training (AT) it is probably the same with the new system.

From interesting facts (I didn't know, you probably didn't know either) speed has the same baseline of training speed as other skills - but it is more correlated with age

So slavista was right all along with training till 15/16 pace for 19y olds. Good to know :D

Good to know, but it would case that EVERYONE will be training pace at the start until satisfying level.

I think, I would rather live not knowing that and that unawareness would be better for the game, but once I did knew it, it would be unfair not to share that knowledge.

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It is fine if that wouldn't be confirmed to anyone and everyone can draw their own conclusions based on experience with training. But if such information is shared in some specific forum it should be made public knowledge to everyone or else it is rather unfair advantage.

but once I did knew it, it would be unfair not to share that knowledge.

Tell that to Raul XD

Raul or Greg or Damian simply cannot do that. They are owners, designers and creators and they just need to know everything but users do not and that's why some game elements are left unknown for users.

So they can say, that they will increase training pace, with shortened season, but also they can hide the fact that they slowed it down? That's make no sense for me

+1 such things cannot be hidden from users we need to know cause we plan the game and training for months ahead and if we know that player will not reach skills we want waste time with it we simply sell it ...
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