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It's disrespectful to me to say stop crying on the forum. You are right in all the other issues you wrote, but we do not know this, because I guess something is explained only in the polish forum. we learn from you too, this is the disrespect of game developers.
i know they will continue not to listen to us, but we will continue to write them. Even if we are of no value to them, maybe one day a sane person will come along and take them into consideration. there is always hope
i know they will continue not to listen to us, but we will continue to write them. Even if we are of no value to them, maybe one day a sane person will come along and take them into consideration. there is always hope
It's disrespectful to me to say stop crying on the forum.
Welp, I've ready plenty of Your post here. For Your understanding I may be disrespectful, salty, savage (Your choice). But while You were crying about injuries (and rest of non user friendly changes) You've still had a PLUS/Assistant account.
Dunno, maybe in this case me being disrespectful is not a proper solution. Yet, sometimes not agreeing with opinion of one being in command may push some things forward. Serefe :)
Welp, I've ready plenty of Your post here. For Your understanding I may be disrespectful, salty, savage (Your choice). But while You were crying about injuries (and rest of non user friendly changes) You've still had a PLUS/Assistant account.
Dunno, maybe in this case me being disrespectful is not a proper solution. Yet, sometimes not agreeing with opinion of one being in command may push some things forward. Serefe :)
There's lots of things that can be said about being disrespectfull. One thing for sure is not having respect for other people's opinions is being disrespectfull
If one likes to pay for plus, because he likes the features, but he doesn't like the way the devs are threathing us, it doesn't mean he should forsake the game itself.
Iyi is present on forum, because he likes the game and the forum.
I don't feel him being a crybaby. He's just discontent with some of the changes, like most people around here.
I could say that you don't like reading the posts here, but you still come on forum.
ut I don't, because everybody is entitled to have an opinion.
What I can say is that if anyone cannot stand the opinions of people who dislike something, it might be for the best benefit of all people here to avoid the forum in general.
That being said. You both have different opinions on how to approach the behaviour of the devs in general.
Iyi is the type to point out all separate things he doesn't like.
You're a more direct type. If things are not to your likings, you stop paying plus.
It may be clear that the game isn't developping the way we liked it to develop and the best way to point that out is to use ALL mediums available.
The thing is, that stop paying plus will harm them more in the short term, but having negative posts on them spread on public forum is harmfull in the long run.
People will remember the complaints on forum, but not the fact you didn't pay for plus.
It should and must be clear that there are things that needs to be done to reverse some changes made, like the training speed. I forsee lots of people to quit if this isn't handeled well and soon. Lots of people write their discontent for the training changes, and I don't mean the training system, but the training speed. Frustration is growing, in general. And this is never good.
I myself have a 21y old trainee who plays league games too. He always has at least 98% training, but still he needed 7 weeks to pop to incredible pace, consecutive after his last pop to outstanding, also after training.
The player has had a great talent all along, but I seem to notice that talent has been drawn backwards in general too.
Even the lower skills are slowed down.
I didn't see a player popping on 1 skill 2 weeks in a row, since before the training changes, besides stamina training. Maybe it occured here and there, but in general...much much less than before!
If one likes to pay for plus, because he likes the features, but he doesn't like the way the devs are threathing us, it doesn't mean he should forsake the game itself.
Iyi is present on forum, because he likes the game and the forum.
I don't feel him being a crybaby. He's just discontent with some of the changes, like most people around here.
I could say that you don't like reading the posts here, but you still come on forum.
ut I don't, because everybody is entitled to have an opinion.
What I can say is that if anyone cannot stand the opinions of people who dislike something, it might be for the best benefit of all people here to avoid the forum in general.
That being said. You both have different opinions on how to approach the behaviour of the devs in general.
Iyi is the type to point out all separate things he doesn't like.
You're a more direct type. If things are not to your likings, you stop paying plus.
It may be clear that the game isn't developping the way we liked it to develop and the best way to point that out is to use ALL mediums available.
The thing is, that stop paying plus will harm them more in the short term, but having negative posts on them spread on public forum is harmfull in the long run.
People will remember the complaints on forum, but not the fact you didn't pay for plus.
It should and must be clear that there are things that needs to be done to reverse some changes made, like the training speed. I forsee lots of people to quit if this isn't handeled well and soon. Lots of people write their discontent for the training changes, and I don't mean the training system, but the training speed. Frustration is growing, in general. And this is never good.
I myself have a 21y old trainee who plays league games too. He always has at least 98% training, but still he needed 7 weeks to pop to incredible pace, consecutive after his last pop to outstanding, also after training.
The player has had a great talent all along, but I seem to notice that talent has been drawn backwards in general too.
Even the lower skills are slowed down.
I didn't see a player popping on 1 skill 2 weeks in a row, since before the training changes, besides stamina training. Maybe it occured here and there, but in general...much much less than before!
Saying what people like or don't like is normal
But when same person writes same negative things many times every day, all the time, then it's getting to a point when it's annoying
And if a person doesn't like so many aspects of the game and is angry/disillusioned about so many things, then I really don't see what's the sense in playing, just find another game that makes you happy
But when same person writes same negative things many times every day, all the time, then it's getting to a point when it's annoying
And if a person doesn't like so many aspects of the game and is angry/disillusioned about so many things, then I really don't see what's the sense in playing, just find another game that makes you happy
Or it also means that you really liked the game and are frustrated with the way it is going.
Let's see, the only significant action that the user has in the community is to express himself in the forums, it is absurd to criticize that. The correct route in these cases is for someone from the staff to clarify at least a fraction of the rather gray situation that is observed, that really is the problem at the moment.
Let's see, the only significant action that the user has in the community is to express himself in the forums, it is absurd to criticize that. The correct route in these cases is for someone from the staff to clarify at least a fraction of the rather gray situation that is observed, that really is the problem at the moment.
I want to report a bug it happens today in the match Nederland-Suomi.
National team is a priority for me and i'm checking many times systems-players-cards-injuries.
So today without any reason a player (Mika Saloheimo-defender) was out of the team and his place got the sub (Artturi Luttinen).
I'm checkin and place again -after the today match- by default my NT for the next game against Cuba,
and thats my team with the player in !!
The picture below is the today match without this player (15 players instead 16!)
And this picture is with the player profile,i was thinking for a red card without the game show in
and the player is still with 2 yellow cards...i don't know ...i'm afraid to get this player again in the team because of that!!!
National team is a priority for me and i'm checking many times systems-players-cards-injuries.
So today without any reason a player (Mika Saloheimo-defender) was out of the team and his place got the sub (Artturi Luttinen).
I'm checkin and place again -after the today match- by default my NT for the next game against Cuba,
and thats my team with the player in !!
The picture below is the today match without this player (15 players instead 16!)
And this picture is with the player profile,i was thinking for a red card without the game show in
and the player is still with 2 yellow cards...i don't know ...i'm afraid to get this player again in the team because of that!!!
Oh i'm sorry those 2 yellow are from his club matches.
In the National card has no cards.
In the National card has no cards.
He had red card for NT.
Proof:
last match for NT he gets yellow card (third one, which transfeorms in red):
[url=https://ibb.co/w4mgzHb][/url]
Now, after the NT match he has no more cards for NT!
[url=https://ibb.co/P5L9TSn][/url]
Cards for club doesn't matter for NT!
Proof:
last match for NT he gets yellow card (third one, which transfeorms in red):
[url=https://ibb.co/w4mgzHb][/url]
Now, after the NT match he has no more cards for NT!
[url=https://ibb.co/P5L9TSn][/url]
Cards for club doesn't matter for NT!
That cards are from the club, not from the NT
He got a yellow card in his last NT match, so it probably was the 3rd one because now he has none
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He got a yellow card in his last NT match, so it probably was the 3rd one because now he has none
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The bug with cards is on NT players listing it still shows clubs cards ...
Yes but i see no red in his page,before the match
For NT purposes you have to use old players' page.
If you use new design, you won't see NT cards.
I made that mistake few weeks ago and don't want to make it again.
For NT purposes you have to use old players' page.
If you use new design, you won't see NT cards.
I made that mistake few weeks ago and don't want to make it again.
If some of you are interested with new club page, it is already here, for testing.
You can use that link: https://sokker.org/pl/app/my-club/
There are still bugs and few option (as guestbook) doesnt work right now, but we decided to move it here, as we can see how it work with real data from game.
You can use that link: https://sokker.org/pl/app/my-club/
There are still bugs and few option (as guestbook) doesnt work right now, but we decided to move it here, as we can see how it work with real data from game.