Subject: »[info]Dev Diary #82: Automatic release of NT-players from

The short season is not enough to train players from the youth school. Players join the main commando at the age of 19-20 and become redundant. My youth school coach is level 16. I have not seen a normal player for the 7th season. I suggest that the youth school should be from 15 years old.

Also, please explain to me. Not 1, not 2, not 3, but what is the reason for not being able to get a young player with the highest coach for 7 seasons?

Fəxri Nərimanbəyov, yaş: 57
maaş: 74 407 m
klub: Valencia, ölkə: Azərbaycan,
fövqəladə [16] məşqçi

Məşq effekti:
fövqəladə [16] qüvvət çalışdırır fövqəladə [16] qapıçılıq çalışdırır
fövqəladə [16] sürət çalışdırır sehirli [15] müdafiə çalışdırır
fövqəladə [16] texnika çalışdırır fövqəladə [16] oyunquruculuq çalışdırır
fövqəladə [16] ötürmə çalışdırır fövqəladə [16] qolçuluq çalışdırır

I've had an unearthly coach since like, forever.
I've never had a star coming out of my youth.

The best sale I got was a little over 5 million euros, after training the player myself for 2 seasons.

Second best I got was an untalented 16 year old with triple adequate on striker stats :)
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Let's hug and cry))

It is a bit more complicated.

From gameplay perscpective I fully agree, that there is a lot things to be fixed in the game mechanics and are urgent ones.

But from our developer perspective we need to start from replacing old interface with the new code and pages. It is determined by limited budget, but also a logic - we cant develop new solutions that are still managed by old interface, becouse it would doble our work (and costs), especially that old sokker code is problematic.

So, for example - to make a youth school reform we need first have an interface to manage it. It was the same with training reform, we needed first to have completly new page with players slots.

We need to replace all old code to convert SK into more convienient options, as mobile app for example - so our plan is, to place different reforms at timeline together with working on interface/pages linked to that reform.

ME is completly seperate thing, we converted it for new technology to make it work after flash replacement, but now it needs to wait a bit. We cant start a war on two fronts with limited resources.

When it comes to youth school things went from bad to worse. Since the last update everything is a joke. In the last season and this season I probably had a turnover of more than 50 players and none of them were talented. Whats the point of wasting so much money on coaches wages? Peoples started missing the old youth system although that one was crap as well.
If a mistake was made or things is gona take years to change you should tell people they shouldn t bother with youth school for a while because its a waste of money.

For many users the youth schools were already frustrating before the changes.
Now it has become ridiculous. Maybe you get lucky after many months of waiting and get a useful player. Then you have a problem to train him if you are in a higher division and are playing to win. That was supposed to be a goal here, wasn't it?

Now youth players are even worse than before, due to the shortened season. Compared to real life they just lack the necessary skills for their age. In reality we would need an U21 team in our clubs to develop the youth players until they are ready for the first team.

Youth schools should be able to support your club, like in real life. They don't have to produce superstars, but you should at least get usable players on a constant basis and be less dependent on the transfer market.

Youth schools should be able to support your club, like in real life. They don't have to produce superstars, but you should at least get usable players on a constant basis and be less dependent on the transfer market.
they are, and they always were, but users usually looks for superstar in their YS which should be super-rare and due to that, they are just firing future average players

I can create fairly ok 11, rated about 60 from my current squad (although striker would be the problem) with only my ex-juniors. And, it's not that I am lucky and You or others are not, definitely not, I just train worse players but they aren't that bad to fire them instantly like users usually do and I am doing that for about 15 years - it's far too long to consider it luck.

But they are worse than before due to shortened season, although everyone is, so it's fair and not a problem.

Not saying that YS couldn't work better in this game, but it's one of the better parts of the game.

If you are going to introduce changes in the economy, You make that switching experience for users amazing. Give something to the community, some exclusive slot for u23 (so you can train youth) and other additional ones. I insist again, it is necessary to have more players in the TL A higher supply of players will lower the prices of the TL

The other thing, if you cannot implement changes due to the high cost, ask the community if they are willing to pay for the changes even if the value of the plus increases and I am sure that we will agree to pay for it.
But man, listen to the community, listen to your customers.

I can understand, that it is annoying that we need to remove most of juniors from YS.

But the fact is, that only solution here is to introduce less juniors to the game every week. If we add 1-6 players x number of clubs per week, than most of them are useless, becouse if avarege team have like 20 players, living whole sokker „life”, all worst players need to be eliminated. We should do some maths about it, but i would be no surprised, if in sokker is now place for less than 1-2% of juniors generated every week.

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Can somebody tell me what happened in my last friendly game? I think it is some bug. Thanks in advance
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I ve been in the game long enough to be sure that the youth school system is not fair. For whatever reason some users get decent players every single season and other users had to wait for years for a decent one. Do you really believe that you can make your own luck with different strategies? These days 90% of the youth go up and down and after 12 weeks are at the same level as they entered the school :) Either in RL or in sokker a coach should tell if a player is good enough or not.

I agree, that we should reform YS in the way to make possible evaluate junior a bit faster than now in terms of talent, but also some predicted skills.

looks like something weird happened, could be some match generation error

usually it's empty tactic or empty squad, however:
it doesnt look like tactics not set because IIRC there are nulls as tactic values in such case
not sure how exactly empty squads looks like in match reports but could it be that not You, nor Your rival set the squad for this match?

Remove stamina from skills beeing developed in ys. Just stick it to weeks junior spends in school.
0-9 weeks - stamina: 1 +/-1
10-19 weeks - stamina: 2 +/-1
20-29 weeks - stamina: 3 +/-1
30+ weeks - stamina: 4 +/-1

Make skills visible after some time junior is in school
At the begining - just 1 skill is visible (excluding stamina)
Each 4 weeks 1 addition randomly choosen skill becomes visible, so:
0-3 weeks - 1 skill
4-7 weeks - 2 skills
8-11 weeks - 3 skills
12-15 weeks - 4 skills
16-19 weeks - 5 skills
20-23 weeks - 6 skills
23+ weeks - all 7 skills are visible

Visible skill should be also predicted with +/- 0-2 accuracy, depending on coach level.