Subject: »[info]Dev Diary #82: Automatic release of NT-players from

injuries possible in NT games, but increase also benefits from NT players (for example: higher attendance on club matches when NT player is playing, training bonus, $$$ for club if player is injuried

700 votes for this answer
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If you added 4th choice... all stays the same. Length of injury down to +- 20 days, this would have had maybe 5...

It's 700 votes because it promises everything that people would want

there isn't anything specific

higher attendance sounds great - but what does it mean? 10%? 1%? 0.1%? for every player, or just for one?

training bonus - awesome, but what does it mean? extra 10% to max training? or same bonus like now, that nobody needs in senior NT because players get max training from league games?

$$$ for injured player - how much, 500k euro? 10% of last transfer? no, Raul already said that they want to pay the players salary XD

...and what does this answer mean by "for example"? bonus training + higher attendance + money? or just one of three options?

it's a ridiculous poll, this option makes people vote because it promises them everything that they imagine, but they will get nothing near what they imagine

there isn't anything specific but there is also no promise there, just indication that benefits from playing in NT will be reworked to possibly be more rewarding for users, some examples what can it be were given iirc

It surely will have continuation polls or at least one poll e.g. do you want A, B, C and D as benefits or do You want A, D, E and F or all these benefits are worthless and it's better no injuries and no benefits. I hope it will, because there isn't anything specific.

I think it is rather poll for checking if there is any point to think about possible benefits. From what I know Raul thought that's the poll is a no-brainer and easily the no injuries and no benefits option will be chosen.

there isn't anything specific but there is also no promise there

it doesn't matter

it's simply too vague and unspecific to be a possible option for a poll

this poll had 3 options:

1. no training / no injuries in friendlies
2. no training / no injuries in all NT games
3. injuries + training BONUS + money + more supporters

it's obvious what people will choose - especially since two choices only take away from you, while the 3rd GIVES you training/money/supporters

and I know it's not a promise and that Raul will create a new poll, I'm responding to what Behmen wrote

"700 votes for this answer"

some people think that they have already decided, they have their voice

this whole poll was a huge mistake
wrong form, too vague, now people will be dissatisfied because "they won't get what they wanted", so why did they ask them in the first place? :-)
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and I know it's not a promise and that Raul will create a new poll, I'm responding to what Behmen wrote

"700 votes for this answer"

some people think that they have already decided, they have their voice

this whole poll was a huge mistake
wrong form, too vague, now people will be dissatisfied because "they won't get what they wanted", so why did they ask them in the first place? :-)

Many users do not want to play anymore. The third choice must be added

It is not that simple, just read the thread and comments. Agree, 3rd option could be missunderstood as some extreame benefits, but i think lot of users are aware, that benefits can be higher, but not to much in terms of competing with teams without NT players. But many voices claims, that it is good to have NTs like normal games, with impact for your team, that is element of sokker and makes it more real.

Kryminator is right, i thought that option 1 will win easily, but seams there is lot of users who think opposite, we need to respect that and develop some solution.

Anyway, you also right that poll wasnt precise enough, so before any implementation we will claim options and make some final poll.

You already have enough feedback. Most people voted for option 3 and I think you could make the best if additionally:
- reduce length of NT-injuries (e.g. limit to 8 days)
and
- (very important) allow injured players to get at least 50% of training

Anyway, you also right that poll wasnt precise enough, so before any implementation we will claim options and make some final poll

After 700 votes? This is ridiculous.

Indeed, I think it is clear what everybody wants.
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I only mean we need to finally claim what exactly will be the bonus, injury lenght etc. For now we only voted for direction, and ithat direction is clear for me.
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Ok, sorry. Well

Fact is that it shows that lots of people care for NT, and that it isn't a minor piece in the game.

I don't think a 2nd poll is necessary. Just implement reasonable and people will be satisfied.
The 2nd poll will divide choices again and make it harder for your team to change things.

+1

Clear, good to see you listen to the users also.

I don't think a 2nd poll is necessary. Just implement reasonable and people will be satisfied.

and what IS reasonable?

what people actually voted for?

Maybe people voted for option 3 because they THOUGHT they will get a lot of money for NT injury, 10% more supporters and extra 20% bonus for training [120% instead of 100%]?

do you think that people who voted for this option will be happy with such changes as below?
a. 0.1% extra supporters max
b. return of wage for injured in NT player
c. no extra training [same as now, max 100% that you get in your club]

because that's what they will probably get

how will that change ANYTHING in the NT situation? It won't, it will be a useless change, completely wasted time & resources
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