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As Boyd said, it's just - how many chances do you want to take?
I actually have done a 180 on the ITC because of this. I can't afford two valid teams. I'm not Arsenal, or some wealthy 20 year player who these measures are supposed to bleed dry.
I don't want to risk paying my first team 3x a week. Stinks.
I actually have done a 180 on the ITC because of this. I can't afford two valid teams. I'm not Arsenal, or some wealthy 20 year player who these measures are supposed to bleed dry.
I don't want to risk paying my first team 3x a week. Stinks.
I absolutely appreciate the tournament though!
I just wonder if perhaps it should just stay as an arcade tournament.
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I just wonder if perhaps it should just stay as an arcade tournament.
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Same point it is now.
International level competition. You guarantee the best lineups teams can offer due to no injury risk.
It's not complicated.
Make it official, I guarantee you won't get that.
International level competition. You guarantee the best lineups teams can offer due to no injury risk.
It's not complicated.
Make it official, I guarantee you won't get that.
But it has no additional value as An arcade competition. It's just An arcade competition so it's pointless. This competition needs to have something to play for. Otherwise you can just arrange arcade matches yourself
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I do not disagree with you, but what exactly you play for? Prestige? No difference if its arcade or not in that case.
You play for many injuries, cards, and expenses, because more players are needed :)
And let's not forget some income
And let's not forget some income
Going by that logic we can make every competition in the game arcade and just give 100% training to everyone without playing, "no difference".
Sure you can, but the results are meaningless. I disagree with you about having no additional value. If anything, I'd argue it would have more value since teams, again, wouldn't be afraid to field their best. If the records are kept in Sokker, people will care.
The alternatives if it stays official are:
- sacrifice league results
- increase risks of injury
Very few teams will be able to afford 18-20 similar quality players.
You aren't any more likely to get 'real meaningful competition' in official because people like me simply won't actively participate. League > All -- save for maybe a Cup trophy.
The alternatives if it stays official are:
- sacrifice league results
- increase risks of injury
Very few teams will be able to afford 18-20 similar quality players.
You aren't any more likely to get 'real meaningful competition' in official because people like me simply won't actively participate. League > All -- save for maybe a Cup trophy.
In my case, as my 21-23 year olds are moving back into ML against better competition...there's no way I can afford to try in this Cup - it'll be all I can do to finish 9th (edit: in league).
Or, I can just tank the league, demote back to A for one more season, and still not accomplish anything. However, doing this would be a temporary patch. When I would come back to ML again 3 seasons from now, I'd be able to be compete for top 6 if not more in ML so why would I risk injuries to my starters in extra comps? There's a reason I do corner friendlies. I think it's dumb, but this is never changing.
There are countless complaints about injuries here, and Raul's stance is pretty clear he wants larger rosters to bleed money out of the game. Cool. So, what happens when you weren't sitting on tens of millions of dollars to begin with?
This game is not fiscally possible for more teams than not. You have your outlier teams who are willing to sit and just farm cash, sure...but those teams aren't competing in anything, anyway.
Raul's decisions on this are making the game struggle to keep new players because you can still somehow have a net profit and go [url][/url]bankrupt, like this guy, one of our formerly few active team owners in the country still:
https://sokker.org/en/app/team/141245/
Again, I'm not saying it is impossible to do, but the skill and knowledge to do so is going to be non-existent in new players, and the last thing anyone needs is more barriers put up for entry into a 20 year old browser game that doesn't even have mobile functionality.
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Or, I can just tank the league, demote back to A for one more season, and still not accomplish anything. However, doing this would be a temporary patch. When I would come back to ML again 3 seasons from now, I'd be able to be compete for top 6 if not more in ML so why would I risk injuries to my starters in extra comps? There's a reason I do corner friendlies. I think it's dumb, but this is never changing.
There are countless complaints about injuries here, and Raul's stance is pretty clear he wants larger rosters to bleed money out of the game. Cool. So, what happens when you weren't sitting on tens of millions of dollars to begin with?
This game is not fiscally possible for more teams than not. You have your outlier teams who are willing to sit and just farm cash, sure...but those teams aren't competing in anything, anyway.
Raul's decisions on this are making the game struggle to keep new players because you can still somehow have a net profit and go [url][/url]bankrupt, like this guy, one of our formerly few active team owners in the country still:
https://sokker.org/en/app/team/141245/
Again, I'm not saying it is impossible to do, but the skill and knowledge to do so is going to be non-existent in new players, and the last thing anyone needs is more barriers put up for entry into a 20 year old browser game that doesn't even have mobile functionality.
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And larger rosters do not make sense if you cant train them.
Raul's stance is pretty clear he wants larger rosters to bleed money out of the game
where have you seen him saying that exactly and with what context...?
there's no point in bleeding money out anymore, there's a deflation (after a huge inflation), I'd say current economic situation of the game is close to ideal in terms of transfer values / income / fixed prices relation.
Raul wanted to get rid of "rich tanking teams". so far they did nothing about it, I doubt they even have an idea what to do with it, most probably they won't do anything about it. but it has nothing (at least directly) to do with the owners expecting teams to have big benches/rosters. in fact it's counterproductive because to have big rosters you first need to be a rich tanking team so this doesn't really make sense.
where have you seen him saying that exactly and with what context...?
there's no point in bleeding money out anymore, there's a deflation (after a huge inflation), I'd say current economic situation of the game is close to ideal in terms of transfer values / income / fixed prices relation.
Raul wanted to get rid of "rich tanking teams". so far they did nothing about it, I doubt they even have an idea what to do with it, most probably they won't do anything about it. but it has nothing (at least directly) to do with the owners expecting teams to have big benches/rosters. in fact it's counterproductive because to have big rosters you first need to be a rich tanking team so this doesn't really make sense.
Yeah, that's probably the part they don't understand or haven't thought through and ultimately it's the reason why things will ultimately fail at some level.
They don't get that earning more money via playing/results doesn't mean you can get a bigger bench because people at your level will also make more money same way that you do and with a limited number of player available the prices will go up. They're rising the capital, they're rising the demand, but they are keeping the supply at same level.
Increasing the number of trainings slots + facilitating reaching ~96%/99% of training would lead to lowering the prices and being able to play at competitive level easier + it would create a bigger number of DECENT players that could end up as "roster players".
Im fairly certain they will get to this conclusion and increase the training slots + increase minutes played/training%, but it will take them more time to get there. Same with further lowering the injury ratio/lenght due to extra official game weekly.
This game could improve much better and at much faster rate if they actually took time to try and understand how it works and how their changes will impact the game and what problems will happen. Unfortunately the norm here is "make a change without testing/thinking - create a problem - notice the problem after some time - fix the problem that they created".
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They don't get that earning more money via playing/results doesn't mean you can get a bigger bench because people at your level will also make more money same way that you do and with a limited number of player available the prices will go up. They're rising the capital, they're rising the demand, but they are keeping the supply at same level.
Increasing the number of trainings slots + facilitating reaching ~96%/99% of training would lead to lowering the prices and being able to play at competitive level easier + it would create a bigger number of DECENT players that could end up as "roster players".
Im fairly certain they will get to this conclusion and increase the training slots + increase minutes played/training%, but it will take them more time to get there. Same with further lowering the injury ratio/lenght due to extra official game weekly.
This game could improve much better and at much faster rate if they actually took time to try and understand how it works and how their changes will impact the game and what problems will happen. Unfortunately the norm here is "make a change without testing/thinking - create a problem - notice the problem after some time - fix the problem that they created".
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where have you seen him saying that exactly and with what context...?
Raul doesn't speak at all anymore - at least not in international.
Honestly, it's the conclusion I've come to from inferences people like you (and others who would have some insight) have made over the past numerous months in regards to the countless injury complaint threads.
What is the logical answer to more competitions and equal number of injuries? Besides more complaint threads going nowhere?
How would you possibly compete in all of these competitions and not be crippled with injuries? It's not realistic. We aren't a bunch of Bayern Munichs that can afford a 1A and 1B full side.
Raul doesn't speak at all anymore - at least not in international.
Honestly, it's the conclusion I've come to from inferences people like you (and others who would have some insight) have made over the past numerous months in regards to the countless injury complaint threads.
What is the logical answer to more competitions and equal number of injuries? Besides more complaint threads going nowhere?
How would you possibly compete in all of these competitions and not be crippled with injuries? It's not realistic. We aren't a bunch of Bayern Munichs that can afford a 1A and 1B full side.