Subject: [idea] Position of players in 3D viewer

From the comments in the forums, one of the reasons that people prefer 2D to 3D viewer is because they cannot see clearly the position of the players in the 3D viewer.

Maybe a solution for the 3D viewer is to use a similar 2D graphic (Bottom center) that PES has been using for years:



You could still have a visual appealing camera angle and see how both teams move tactically during the match.

This is only one of the problems with current 3D matches, It just looks bad overall. I really think we should rather focus on the Match Highlights. There are so many matches one could watch during the week but it is just too time consuming

But highlights only like an option. I think it's easier a bar.
Anyway, live matches must always remain, is one of the best exciting parts of sokker (current time is perfect 20-25 minutes)

3d viewer need to be improved considerably. Almost nobody use 3d, but It must be difficult to get something like fm because I've seen other games like managerzone and they have 3d long time ago and It looks like a crap yet.
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It isn't time consuming for non-Plus managers. I have no Arcade matches to watch, I have no CC matches. So for me only highlights after all is upgrade would never be enough.

Besides, if Plus managers do watch all these matches, it is their own time. No one have to watch so many matches each week, it is a choice.

To improve the current 3d player, add shadows to players and the ball. That will make players walk on the pitch, not float above it.

Imprtance of shadow, and why games need them:



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I think sokker doesn't need 3d at all.

We live in 2020. We are used to 2D and I like It but nowadays (believe me), new users are looking for a good 3d viewer. I want to attract friends and I've gotten some of them, but the rest (they play fm) want something like fm, more modern.

+1 rapelo.

FootballStrategy has proven that it is possible to have a decent 3D viewer.

@el pupe I understand that most people are used to 2D viewer

But if we want more people to join the game, an update to the visual aspect of the game, including the site and the match viewer is needed.

Even mobile games nowadays have great graphics compared to our viewer.

even if 3d attracts new user its not the thing that will make them stay :( i agree with @el pupe

It's just my personal experience with my friends.

I agree, but you need to attract them first, then they can decide.
Attract people with million of similar online games is the most difficult. It's the first thing that people will look when the game is promoted (apart from user interface).

It's obvious that other things go first (especially for old users like us), but I consider essential a good 3d viewer in current times to attract new people.
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we need to understand that our friends will not love the game no matter what devs do you need special mind set to stay in this game . I tried during the years to pursuit my friends in the game main reason is not all of them are in to soccer , they do not have time for games .
As i understand we have small dev team on the game they hardly can compete with all competitors in that part. What we need cute light (fast loading skin) good UI of the interface rest is already here
With small good improvements in game play this manager in this type of games is already the best

I agree, for me Sokker is the best online football manager I've played (that's why I'm still here), and I consider other things go first.

I'm just saying that in the future, they must consider to improve 3d if they want to attract new people.

sure any improvement is welcome

But if we want more people to join the game, an update to the visual aspect of the game, including the site and the match viewer is needed.

Even mobile games nowadays have great graphics compared to our viewer.

+1

Ofcourse Sokker needs a good 3D player. 2D is really not attractive for new managers.

From another topic, this is so much better:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.soccermanagerltd.soccermanager2020&hl=es

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.konami.pesclubmanager&hl=es

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.soccermanagerltd.soccermanager2020&hl=es

You can check that those games have million of downloads. I've played and 3D is very good, and you can watch in mobile.

With a viewer like them, Sokker will be light years away from those games. We have the best online football manager, but it must be improved according to current times.

But first, we must let devs work, because other aspects are more important now.
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