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Subject: [idea] What users really want
ah enough with polls lets see what its and get it over :)
LOL, so apparently the vote went the exact opposite way to what you and Svik found out when polling people in game where there can't be multiple votes.
Looks like the DEVs have an agenda to push, and to hell with everyone else.
What a shame, sokker WAS a good game
Looks like the DEVs have an agenda to push, and to hell with everyone else.
What a shame, sokker WAS a good game
Well, i know it can be a bit emotional - but it's just our final decision, and it's pretty aligned with Slavista thoughs too.
Option 1 - should be 2 league matches played on Sunday and Wednesday and national cups played on Friday, without International competition. Although I am not happy for teams in smaller countries/unattractive leagues, because this won't help their situation
Option 2 - has the International cup instead of the second League match on Wednesday. But it has a problem with the calendar guaranteeing only 1 match per week. This could be solved with the International cup system guaranteeing matches for the entire season. Although Devs obviously dislike this system.
We just simply decided to choose option 1, from few reasons, based on poll results, discussions, our own ideas and simulations. We just belive, that for new training system that idea will be better, than second alternative cometition system. It's our work to move on forward. We also filtered answers for just small countries in our poll, pretty the same conclusions than from general one.
RIP of sokker, seriously? 85% users want change. One additional game will be extra fun for all of them, sure, some of you probably would prefer international competition, but even if - its still better than now. And we belive, that current number of users in small countries will be solved quicly by promotion, if not, we can talk about merge of leagues or even move back to 8 teams system, but honsestly, we dont belive it will be necessery.
Option 1 - should be 2 league matches played on Sunday and Wednesday and national cups played on Friday, without International competition. Although I am not happy for teams in smaller countries/unattractive leagues, because this won't help their situation
Option 2 - has the International cup instead of the second League match on Wednesday. But it has a problem with the calendar guaranteeing only 1 match per week. This could be solved with the International cup system guaranteeing matches for the entire season. Although Devs obviously dislike this system.
We just simply decided to choose option 1, from few reasons, based on poll results, discussions, our own ideas and simulations. We just belive, that for new training system that idea will be better, than second alternative cometition system. It's our work to move on forward. We also filtered answers for just small countries in our poll, pretty the same conclusions than from general one.
RIP of sokker, seriously? 85% users want change. One additional game will be extra fun for all of them, sure, some of you probably would prefer international competition, but even if - its still better than now. And we belive, that current number of users in small countries will be solved quicly by promotion, if not, we can talk about merge of leagues or even move back to 8 teams system, but honsestly, we dont belive it will be necessery.
And that is where you are wrong. Slavista and Svik did their polls and they do not match with what you are doing.
It's very easy for any big country players, any 2nd, 3rd, 4th votes to say they are from small countries.
You will see, I have warned you, and that is all I can do. Everything chosen is literally the opposite of what small countries want.
By the time you decide to do anything with small countries, it will be two years down the track, most will not continue that long from small countries after you have destroyed hope.
An extra game against bots and new players or inactive players is not better than the current system.
It's very easy for any big country players, any 2nd, 3rd, 4th votes to say they are from small countries.
You will see, I have warned you, and that is all I can do. Everything chosen is literally the opposite of what small countries want.
By the time you decide to do anything with small countries, it will be two years down the track, most will not continue that long from small countries after you have destroyed hope.
An extra game against bots and new players or inactive players is not better than the current system.
We just simply decided to choose option 1, from few reasons, based on poll results,
Based on on pull with manipulated questions supported with devs with so many arguments and not protected poll. You guys do not want to listen what people want actully and the poll in Bulgaria shows that
i have 49 users from 91 in total and clearly option 1 is not accepted at all!
Even your poll did not won cause lots of user voted with option 5 so you guys fooling yourself but pushing option 1 since day one ...
Based on on pull with manipulated questions supported with devs with so many arguments and not protected poll. You guys do not want to listen what people want actully and the poll in Bulgaria shows that
i have 49 users from 91 in total and clearly option 1 is not accepted at all!
Even your poll did not won cause lots of user voted with option 5 so you guys fooling yourself but pushing option 1 since day one ...
This is exactly what has happened. It was shown in their first poll they released. They have had an agenda all along, but wanted to give an impression the users had a choice.
I mean serious, who uses an external polling system when they have their own? It is literally saying, our polling system is rubbish, and we aren't good enough to make better, or we need a way to manipulate and say whatever results we want
I mean serious, who uses an external polling system when they have their own? It is literally saying, our polling system is rubbish, and we aren't good enough to make better, or we need a way to manipulate and say whatever results we want
All i see is just 4-5 nicknames with opposite idea, emotionaly overreacting and alleging us manipulations over and over again.
Also hijacking discussion for themselves, as long as 50% of all posts is publicated by them. Sorry guys, sure, you can have own perception, we feel good and fair with our final decission, it pleases the majority, we did the reasearch, make polls, take a lot of information for consideration, and finally it also fit our development strategy and we need to go forward now.
Also hijacking discussion for themselves, as long as 50% of all posts is publicated by them. Sorry guys, sure, you can have own perception, we feel good and fair with our final decission, it pleases the majority, we did the reasearch, make polls, take a lot of information for consideration, and finally it also fit our development strategy and we need to go forward now.
It's ok, we know it doesn't please the majority. Sk-mail replies prove it
@Raul you fooling yourself since week one
other users may not post here in forum because they are not so naive like me to believe that you are actually listen
key question in my poll
3 if you have to pick increase of legauge or extra completion what you will chose a) increase b ) extra competition
а +11
б +28
so do not go with such statments
other users may not post here in forum because they are not so naive like me to believe that you are actually listen
key question in my poll
3 if you have to pick increase of legauge or extra completion what you will chose a) increase b ) extra competition
а +11
б +28
so do not go with such statments
It's hard for me to directly evaluate your polls, i dont have full overview how much knowledgle voting users have, how many dev diaries they know and how much understand the context.
But you probably right, that there is for sure a large group in favor of international cup. same, as there is a huge group of fans of extended leages. We just need to pick one of them. I'm pretty sure, that for most users adding new game is a good option and more fun. For our perspective, combined will all changes proposed is less risk, to go with 2 league games. Sure, we can discuss about polls, you can show me 70% in favor of international cup in Bulgaria, i can show you number of votes for 12 teams in our poll, but final conclusion is - very simple - there are groups in favor of boths ideas, there is a space for one match more for now, and we need to take one of them. As DEVs we decided to first go without new competition in first step, it will be less risky.
And for the end interesting history directly from Greg and Damian, you even dont remember, but in first seasons of sokker there was a league match in every single day. And same comments of dying Sokker apeared when current system with one league match per week was introduced. Sokker still stands, dont be so sceptical.
But you probably right, that there is for sure a large group in favor of international cup. same, as there is a huge group of fans of extended leages. We just need to pick one of them. I'm pretty sure, that for most users adding new game is a good option and more fun. For our perspective, combined will all changes proposed is less risk, to go with 2 league games. Sure, we can discuss about polls, you can show me 70% in favor of international cup in Bulgaria, i can show you number of votes for 12 teams in our poll, but final conclusion is - very simple - there are groups in favor of boths ideas, there is a space for one match more for now, and we need to take one of them. As DEVs we decided to first go without new competition in first step, it will be less risky.
And for the end interesting history directly from Greg and Damian, you even dont remember, but in first seasons of sokker there was a league match in every single day. And same comments of dying Sokker apeared when current system with one league match per week was introduced. Sokker still stands, dont be so sceptical.
new game is good 3 games were accepted but pushing 13 weeks no cause more peope vote for 12 teams in divisions but not in 12 weeks .....
I am ok with the new calendar if this is how it will look like
It is the admins' preferred system and it is adjusted by what users want (wednesday/sunday league, 14 weeks season, 12 teams, 2 playoff matches, interseasonal break, warm-up matches). I like that the number of leagues in divisions can be adjusted according to each country and I think that merging the smallest National leagues into Regional leagues is a must.
Plus if Devs give users better tools for organizing friendly leagues then friendlies don't have to be so boring
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It is the admins' preferred system and it is adjusted by what users want (wednesday/sunday league, 14 weeks season, 12 teams, 2 playoff matches, interseasonal break, warm-up matches). I like that the number of leagues in divisions can be adjusted according to each country and I think that merging the smallest National leagues into Regional leagues is a must.
Plus if Devs give users better tools for organizing friendly leagues then friendlies don't have to be so boring
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i want 12 teams but in 24 weeks calendar so when something is not feasible i do not propose something just to accumulate positive votes in solution with 12 or 13 weeks to achieve my target
I know you fight to the end for 14 weeks - but still, we can figure out about NT schedule for that. Even you prepared that kind of idea fow to fit in it.
you do not get it i do not fight for 14 weeks
i fight what is best exp for people in my country and 2 legauge games and 12 teams division at this moment is not an option
i fight what is best exp for people in my country and 2 legauge games and 12 teams division at this moment is not an option