Instead of calling for some bans you should better go to sleep as I believe it is 2.30 am in Canberra.

Good night dude !

Mods have their guidelines, and I am pretty sure that "Protecting achmid from the facts" isn't on the list.

But, since it seems that you already answered everything, you can now just let devs to decide what they are gonna do. I am sure that your inputs are appreciated.

I am just happy that I had an opportunity to spread knowledge, like how fan clubs affect finances, even if somebody is to proud to admit that. Spreading good knowledge is always a good thing.

I am sure that you already answered all of this as well, so you can just go to sleep.

If you read this thread, if you understood this thread, if you read AND understood this thread, you would understand why I don't need to answer your questions again.

It's funny because right now you sound like a 12yo girl who somehow feels if they get the last word in, it makes them "win" their argument, even if it has nothing to do with the subject.

Currently it's like I asked what you want from Burger King, and you replying with "a Big Mac". You understand is has something to do with burgers, but really have no idea.

Anyway it has been pointed out I should go to bed and I think that is a fantastic idea. So I'm going to head to bed, I appreciate the laugh you have given to me tonight, and if you'd like to get one last post in to really feel like you have "won the argument", then go for it :)
Or maybe you can prove me wrong and prove you aren't acting like a 12yo who feels they need the last word and not post anything, but that may be just a little too hard for your poor ego.

Who knows, maybe you can get Damien to post on your behalf, that will really be sneaky ;)

Either way, have a good night, and I apologize to those who actually understand this topic, for stopping the comedy show that is you talking about something you don't understand, even though I tried to help you from making a fool of yourself.

Good night :)

and if you'd like to get one last post in to really feel like you have "won the argument", then go for it :)
What a checkmate! Wow!
Projecting much?
For everyone reading, if you wanna learn more about achmid and this fabulous move of his, google "psychological projection."

And if anyone wants to know what a 12yo girl sounds, here you go, achmid got it covered:
And if you were actually smart, you'd realise this would actually help you too.

Thanks for giving me "the winning comment," as you call it.
Nighty night.

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The last word is for me but I cannot say much more because I already got a warning for having pointing out some of the arcade bug cheaters.

PS : _james wanted to send my 95yo coach to the retirement home in an other thread so don't worry I will not allow him to use me to post on his behalf ;)

Comparing sponsors from a country with 6 users to a country with over 3000 users.
It's like the actual champion from Australia IRL should have the same income as Real madrid f.e. ... Go figure...
You're always stating others, with opposite opinions, should learn to read or at least understand what they're reading, but they simply don't all agree with your points. If you cannot accept other opinions, then you really have a bigger problem than your sponsors...
I can agree to the fact, your league should be more challenging and attractive to play in, but claiming more money for...being Australian in this case... That's a bit too convenient, I think...
Nobody forbids you to play in another country. Sure, you want to play in Australia, cause, you live there... I get it.

But then don't come complaining about the situation, but DO something about it and have a bit of a campaign in your country. You have 25 million people in Australia... There must be at least 100 people around who like it and want to play it... Become a tutor, a mentor, a promotor, whatever could help your situation.

But stop this personal vendetta against the game that is sokker, for allready 16 years!
New devs come, make sure the game won't die out cause of the end of flash...

You... complaining your country has too little users, too low income from sponsors, Poland is too big, it's not fair...
Then we should complain about the fact we have to compete against far too great teams and spend millions of euro's to prevent us from relegating, which is a negative factor for 1000's of users, but doesn't bother your country, cause you cannot relegate...
If we are 1st in 2nd league in our country and lose a cupmatch in round 7, our supportersmood goes down, giving a direct impact of about -150k in a home league match... And it only gradually rises IF we keep winning in the league, that is...
Off course, you don't know that, cause you have about 30% chance to win the cup AND 17% chance to win the National title. What bonus do you get there?
Look... Sponsorship IMO is completely fair. And not because I'm a "big" country user...
Poland still has about 2000% more users as Belgium, but because we are 10th in the ranking we are BIG?
But you have to consider ALL aspects of the game, calculating this feature.

It's funny how it's always the same people who see me post and conveniently decide to disagree and chase any of my comments around the forum.

It's also funny how it's the same people always trying to protect the advantage that sokker has given them.

I'm not trying to give Australia more money, as I've already pointed out that not only does it not take take away from big countries but you still end up well ahead, but that the sponsorship is flawed.

How is it that a team who has been playing 9 weeks "deserves" more lonely than one playing for 2yrs? The simple fact is they don't, but they are getting it. It's funny you even try to argue this point.

You are meant to be a leader in this game but don't know the rules. Saying there is nothing stopping me from joining another country? Actually there is, read the rules, you can only sign up for the country you are in. So unless I decide to make up a story that I'm actually from another country and just traveling, then I am in Australia.

And thanks for proving me right again _James, thought it'd be just a bit too much for your ego to try and not get the last word in, particularly without trying to throw insults along with it.

And given other small country users have also come here to state the problems, they must just be trying to get free money too.

But please, keep arguing how a team of 9 weeks, or a team of 4 months, deserves more money that one who is years old, because it makes so much sense, especially when all they are doing is losing, which any team can do.

Even your answer doesn't make sense and you are admitting there is a problem. You are telling me to get more users to fix the sponsorship problem, which is proving that you know sponsorship is more related to number of users that it is to skill of a manager, when it should be associated with skill of the manager. In a manager GAME, or any other game, your own skill should be the only thing that matters when it comes to progressing.
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achmid za _james _ 2020-06-15 18:52:30

It's funny because right now you sound like a 12yo girl who somehow feels if they get the last word in, it makes them "win" their argument, even if it has nothing to do with the subject.

and if you'd like to get one last post in to really feel like you have "won the argument", then go for it :)


_james za achmid _ 2020-06-15 19:08:27

What a checkmate! Wow!
Projecting much?

Thanks for giving me "the winning comment," as you call it.


achmid za Dtox9 _ 2020-06-16 01:07:57

And thanks for proving me right again _James, thought it'd be just a bit too much for your ego to try and not get the last word in, particularly without trying to throw insults along with it.

?

Well you asked the mods to do their job, here you are !

Now you can still reach out to some sokker linguists, maybe they have the power to ban the mods who disagree with you.

LOL!

If you have an issue sk-mail me, spamming a topic is not what the forums are for. Thankfully you have given this post a lot of attention so more people have got to read and have a say + a good laugh.

But it's good to see you still can't hold back, proving my statement even more

achmid za _james _ 2020-06-15 18:52:30

It's funny because right now you sound like a 12yo girl who somehow feels if they get the last word in, it makes them "win" their argument, even if it has nothing to do with the subject.

and if you'd like to get one last post in to really feel like you have "won the argument", then go for it :)


_james za achmid _ 2020-06-15 19:08:27

What a checkmate! Wow!
Projecting much?

Thanks for giving me "the winning comment," as you call it.


achmid za Dtox9 _ 2020-06-16 01:07:57

And thanks for proving me right again _James, thought it'd be just a bit too much for your ego to try and not get the last word in, particularly without trying to throw insults along with it.


achmid za _james _ 2020-06-16 10:44:30

But it's good to see you still can't hold back, proving my statement even more

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kids...

So here's another update

Australia:
Fantum - Started in June 2018 - 131 250 $ sponsorship (from 124 375 $ last week) - won all league games - rating 52
Cometer - Started in April 2018 - 55 500 $ sponsorship - rating 32


Italia:
Player 1 - Started in Sept 2019 - 150 000 $ sponsorship - lost 3 of 4 league matches - rating 48
Player 2 - Started in Nov 2019 - 161 250 $ sponsorship - lost 3 of 4 league matches - rating 47
Player 3 - Started in Jan 2020 - 137 813 $ sponsorship - rating 41
Player 4 - Started in Mar 2020 - 129 063 $ sponsorship - rating 45

Poland:
Player 1 - Started in Feb 2020 - 112 500 $ sponsorship - lost 4 of 4 league matches. - ratig 35
Player 2 - Started in April 2020 - 111 250 $ sponsorship - rating 37
Player 3 - Started in April 2020 - 106 563 $ sponsorship - rating 30
Player 4 - Started in Apr 2020 - 111 250 $ sponsorship - rating 35
Player 5 - Started in April 2020 - 93 750 $ sponsorship - rating 24
Player 6 - Started in April 2020 - 121 389 $ sponsorship - rating 30.5

Stopped putting the win loss because it was showing the same story. All or almost all loses from each of the teams getting more sponsorship, showing that it isn't their managerial prowess giving them the extra sponsorship, so they are not EARNING the money, they are being given it just because they picked the right country with lots of users.

So again, sponsorship is not based on the most deserving the managers, the strongest skilled or tactically the best, it is being given due to picking the correct country to join, making sure it has a lot of users.

No team that is only 2-3 months old (ie one season old), should be earning more than an active manager of over two years old, UNLESS they have played the Transfer Market and made a killing, which is not what any of these teams did (which is why I showed ratings - although the longer they receive this gifted money, the quicker they can get stronger so ratings go up faster comparatively to a small nation country)

agree, the system must have more balanced standards... according to your global position or something like that

Yeah it's definitely not right.

This is why I have pushed for a competitive International League because it is the only fair way for everyone to be involved (as long as the sponsorship calculation is moved to the International League from the National comp).

However the merging of small countries in to a large country, would also help a lot because then we would be treated as a large country with numbers and competition, and the sponsorship basis wouldn't need to be re-written, as well as all the other bonuses that go along with this.

Also note that multi-teams account could also solve problem (of users) as i describe before in topic.

I hope @devs will change their minds (in term of priority) because a "natural" large increase in the number of users in small to medium countries is very optimistic and long term solution.

To conclude, despite the obsessional @achmid's talks to save "small countries" im sharing his initial concerns.
While loosing users is a bigger problem for small nations, I see it in a (non small) country like France than the loss of human teams has a big impact on national 'challenges' and what makes the specific charm of sokker: communities.

Communities and challenges are the prior goals (in devs diary) and i hope this topic will be taking into consideration very seriously despite these "undiplomatic" discussions.