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Subject: NEWS Sokker- big changes are coming!

2024-04-18 16:12:24
Post here a screenshot from office i will try to explain.
2024-04-18 16:19:07
I did it look previous comments
2024-04-18 16:36:33


At the beggining of the season most important is last season rating - which in your case was "above expectations". But each week durnig the season influence of "last season rating" is lower and influence of "currenct season rating" is higher.

In you case, current season rating - below expectations - will impact on your mood more and more.
Recent matches - this is old mood system - you have 7/7, cant make it better.

If you will stay at exact same levels - recent matches at 100% and current season rating at "below expectations" - your fans mood will continue to falling down, until you achieve better level of current season rating.
2024-04-18 16:49:55
I know all that but the fans believe that opponent team has better posibilities to win next week than my team.That is crazy

I always play for the victory at every game
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2024-04-18 16:57:05
That is 100% based on comparing fanbase, nothing more.
2024-04-18 17:01:43
When opponent team has:
200 or more fans than you: Your fans hope the team will not bring them too much embarrassment in this match
100-200 more fans than you: The opponent is better, nevertheless the fans believe that with a bit of luck their team can afford to spring a surprise.
0-100 more fans than you: Fans predict that it will be a tough and even match, with a slight advantage for the opponent.
0-100 less fans than you: Fans predict that it will be a tough and even match.
100-200 less fans than you: Fans appreciate the class of the opponent, but still expect to win.
200+ less fans than you: Your fans are confident of an easy victory in this match.
2024-04-18 17:04:32
This has nothing to do with how strong teams are, but it was always like that in this game.
Now, in new mood system, I would compare not fanbase, but seasonal expectations. That would be more measurable.
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2024-04-18 20:18:48
Neuro: I've come around to agreeing with you on additional money.

I think giving them a better base stadium is the more logical answer.
It will take time but they will slowly gain money and - in theory - be less likely to spend stupidly.

As far as adding more money to the game... new users are grossly overdue for an inflation adjusted starting point.

It's been 15 years.

Right now, starting as a new team is crippling for interest.
2024-04-19 00:07:28
Put all fired players on tl (Like coaches), all banned and teams that became bots etc on tl too...More players on tl and inflation is going down
2024-04-19 01:09:27
bigger stadium for new players would not be effective as new teams starts at lower divisions with low ticket prices and supporters.

releasing bot or deleted teams' players to transfer market also can't solve inflation especially on long term. bot teams' players are useless and deleted teams' players are mostly old.

tax or fanmood are also not solutions on long term. these two things punishes each player archetype (farmers and daytraders).

what the devs wants from us to do? training young players for a one real year and after selling them achieving some cups and then going back to training young players when our squad gets old? is it going to be the only cycle of the game now?

the system was better than this before tax or fan mood changes, at least we could call it "liberal" economy and all kind of players were able to enjoy the game somehow they like to play sokker.

now it's like soviet regime, pushes you to play the game as how it wants to be played and the way it wants is not enjoyable or at it's not logical neither for new players or old ones :D

the reason of inflation is not users, and can not be solved via taxes or anything else on the long term. the reason is limited training capacity (10) and unconsistent youth schools and maybe other mechanisms of the game on the long term.

I need to sleep now and lazy for writing more but if devs read here and think logically and more deeply, you will find out the only long-term solution of capitalism is producing more value, which means the game mechanisms itselves needs to allow us produce more value like governments have to do. interest rate or tax increase just for short term solution for corrupted economic schemas. real solution is creating environment for your people such as opening new factories (or making young schools in sokker better), improving current producing ecosystems (or letting people train more players in sokker like in real world clubs does).
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2024-04-19 01:19:31
also neither new tax or fan mood changes helping new players. new players needs proper guidance (not a forum post). I mean they need something like a tutorial trainer with tasks and increased ux. also more money resources but first of all proper guidance about how they should spend their money.

old players were already somehow o.k. with the previous system. now no one is happy :D
2024-04-19 01:28:24
Could be wrong but I view it as season expectation based off primarily money but small amount of other factors.

Individual match expectation based off your fan size vs their fan size.

You have more money - higher seasonal expectations
You have less fans - opponent expected to win the match against you.

There is no way money isn’t the most important factor in season expectations to the point that it’s pointless considering other factors unless you have the same amount of money. We have a team who has fewer fans has fewer avg rating , fewer every metric available that promoted and immediately was expected to win the top league. The only thing they had was money.

Needless to say they’re last. They’re also now a bot but they’ve basically been one for years now.
2024-04-19 10:09:36
The same happened in our top division.
Team with lots of money got promoted, average squad, but favorite to win Championship.
2024-04-19 11:21:47
i have question.... why we pay tax from selling price and no only from profit. Tax pay every state from profit when buy and sell... if we have pay from selling price call it VAT no TAX...
2024-04-19 11:35:19
Hi, I’m new here, but interested in this discussion about inflation in the transfer market.

What kind of levels are we talking about?
2024-04-19 12:04:33
It’s hard to put numbers on it but with the league reform (increase of league games per week) everybody got more home games = more ticket revenue. This inevitable led to an influx of money into the system.

Sokker is not real life. Inflation is very good for new users as you can make money faster and a lot of costs are constant (coach wages, stadium costs etc.). You can progress to a stable level a lot faster than before.

All changes that were made lately are unfortunately bad for new users like yourself. Although the sooner you realise sokker is a game for masochists the better :)