Subject: »[info]Dev Diary #82: Automatic release of NT-players from

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It would have been easy for the implementation to show the skills of all players for U21 and NT coaches, wouldn't it? I would have much preferred that if that option existed.

The reason why (i explain you many times during your original topic) is the fundamental inequality introduce by this idea. Only NT coach would be able to see all players skills. Its not a question of 20% 80% votes...

The ONLY way to solve this inequality, definitely, is to make skills visible for ALL, users, players, NT or not. And DONE.

EDIT : off course, my main idea was to hide skills for ALL, even owners :-) This will force everyone to check and scout players before buying, and force trainers to not make predictive plans and prices. An huge step in the game. Not a very popular idea - i can imagine - among "good old users" who want to continue the play the same game in decline for years.
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I think it would not be a bad idea to implement something like "random range" for NT Coaches.
It would basically mean f.e. one striker trained by Xy manager , age 20 with following skills ;
Pace 12
Tech 12
Striker 12

With the posibbility of checking the box and showing his real skills to U21 NT Manager, or not checking the box and showing his skills as random ranges(+-2). For example, the same player but box not checked :

Pace 10-12
Tech 11-13
STK 12-14

So there would be no advantage to NT manager having the knowledge of skills if a user does not want it. We have this option currently .

BUT (AND IT IS A BIG BUT) he can have a potential great player for NT and not know it. Because of that, with those "random ranges" he would/could estimate this player. Based on his game rating, and some other estimations he could get a decent estimation about this player. He would not be sure about his skills, but his usability to NT could be known.

Nobody should try to pull left or right. We all should work together to try and find a solution that would leave many Users satisfied.

I sad that before somewhere, that we should have special skill names for ranges that everyone could see, but people were against it.

Maybe to display players skills from other teams like this:
- basic [0-3]
- amateur [4-7]
- professional [8-11]
- world class [12-14]
- superstar [15-17]


Your player is displayed like this:

Dude Sokkerowski, age 24
value: 1 498 250 $
wage: 13 700 $
unearthly [13] form
height: 175 cm, weight: 78.1 kg,
BMI: 25.5

formidable [11] stamina hopeless [1] keeper
divine [17] pace weak [4] defender
magical [15] technique brilliant [14] playmaker
incredible [13] passing solid [8] striker


Other people would see him like this:

Dude Sokkerowski, age 24
value: 1 498 250 $
wage: 13 700 $
unearthly [13] form
height: 175 cm, weight: 78.1 kg,
BMI: 25.5

professional stamina basic keeper
superstar pace amateur defender
superstar technique world class playmaker
world class passing professional striker

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A lot has been said on this topic.

https://sokker.org/forum_topic/ID_forum/63355/ID_topic/3438915/pg/0#new

it doesn't matter if the owners see the true skills, they will share the true skills. It should be ranged for everyone. Maybe a talent information and more player statistic to scout good player should be a good balance.

Then those people should bring a better proposal on the table, instead of pulling only in their own direction.

This would not only be useful to NT coaches, I think it would also be more interesting to scout your club's opponents, and matches would be more interesting to watch. When you watch your team, you know who the stars are, it would be nice to know the same for the other team. This is even more the case with NT and CC matches, where you might not know anybody's skills.

It would also help new users. They can have a better idea of a squad that they need to assemble when they scout other teams. They can better understand what has happened on the pitch, after they lose a match where they played good.

On the other hand, this would expose the randomness of the ME, but we already know how crazy it is.

Id very much like to hear an answer to this question from tsolias:
5 -------------------
On dev.diary 5:
"7. The players who played an official match and against stronger teams will gain an extra bonus to their training."

a) Please define "stronger teams".
I can't understand if you mean high "average mark ", or "First squad average value", or total squad average value, or team ranking...
b) Please specify in percentage how much this bonus will be

If such a change would go through, does that means that smaller/weaker nations are screwed as teams generally are weaker on average and there is no higher league to climb?

Why now we must waiting to see players 10-15 seconds
Yesterday i clicked players see in 1 sec. Now no. i hate this. im sure so much users are agreed with me.

And now we dont see juniors shortcut in Office page. You guys kill this greatest game. Thanks!

It is in the team section. Two options there are "main team" and "junior team".

The game will get worse. Most of the changes go against what users want.

+1
There was 0 reasons to remove it.

Why did they remove the old section of players today?

This is really annoying, now we have to click seperate at every player to see the graphs :(

Why?
There is not any readson for this.
This was 1 of the best things in Sokker.

Edit:
Please listen to users before removing this kind of things.
I like it that they are making things better for us, but making Sokker less easy is not the way to a better game.
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Just like option to not show portraits, we need an option to chose table view as default.

Also we should be able to open player links in a new tab from the table view.