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Subject: [change] Trading reform

2020-04-21 13:25:17
+1 @juytt
2020-04-24 16:57:09
I try to make a moment of clarity to not confuse Trading with Wild trading.


Trading is a good thing. It is part of football, it is part of Sokker and if well balanced it is also fun.

Wild trading, daytrading, the exasperation of trading is a pathology of the game due to a bad system regulation. It does not help the small teams, on the contrary, it helps the big teams that have a lot of money because it is a money making system with money, as I always say it is finance, not Sokker, an aberration.

trading is a healthy organ of Sokker
wild trading is the cancer that attacks the organ.


Trading, not pathological, made to earn funds to invest in the team, must come mostly from buying young players to train, or training their young players who comes from YS, and reselling profitably. In this way beginners and small teams are advantaged, because they can have 22 players to train. High level teams from serie A or Extraklasa wants to get results they can't, they need already trained players on whom they can't speculate or speculate much less.

Pathological trading is buy 20 players a week without limits, having time to scan the market every day several times a day, to have infinite number of players in squad without limits, to be able to sell for pure profit untrained or never used players after 1- 2 weeks without limits. This system only helps wild daytraders who can afford it and have a lot of time and it hurts everyone else, especially the beginners and small teams.


in summary:

Trading is nice and good for the game
Wild trading is bad and ruins the game

the first must be protected
the second must be fought


IMHO
2020-04-24 17:38:24
+1 @Rebel.81
2020-04-24 19:05:22
+1 thank you for the qualification of the terms
I cannot believed we argued so much when we pretty much share the same thoughts.

The difference is that I am sure that fixing the arcade bug is enough to get rid of the wild traders and most of the proposed restrictions actually damage normal traders

I also think that wild trading is not such huge problem in a term of the number of people who actually do the wild trading as you define it. They are actually very few but very visible wild traders
(edited)
2020-04-24 19:11:51
They are very few but one of the wildest is leading the Rebel.81 league ;)
2020-04-24 19:19:16
-1
2020-04-25 01:50:54
+1 absolutely agree with Rebel.81
2020-04-27 01:04:26
+1 @Rebel.81
2020-04-27 10:05:46
+1....
2020-04-28 00:47:52
the market is fair as it is. any change will be a step back
2020-04-28 14:57:49
Yes, I agree, the the market is fair as it is and trading system should not be changed.

I wrote before "+1 @Rebel.81 ". This was meant for wild trading.
There could be some action to keep the market clean of wild trading, e.g. no more than 40 players in a team., or pay more taxes if you resell players after less than x weeks
2020-04-28 15:09:02
more taxis can pay in first 3-4 weeks in team....
2020-04-28 16:43:51
It is fair, but ruining the experience for many users.
2020-04-28 16:49:16
+1
2020-04-28 17:08:11
the market is fair as it is. any change will be a step back

Say the 100M€+ profit trader...

I really like this one too, it is to assume in the name of the club : http://sokker.org/transfers_team/ID_team/94732
109 players in the squad, what a collection :-)

Sokker is...mostly a trading game, like said @sir_james ruining the experience for many other users.
(edited)
2020-04-28 17:55:55
Team was renamed to Could you not bid this player???. 2019-02-15

We know the exact day when he discovered comedy, and tried to use it...